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Title: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 07:57:36 am
#1
I have two sets of (vintage) Headman headers for SBF swaps into Pintos.
One set (NOS) has rectangle ports, the other oval : Why ? I have never seen a 302w with oval ports. Any ideas ?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0189_zpsbz7fbojn.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0189_zpsbz7fbojn.jpg.html)


#2
What are these called & where to get ?
They are aluminum. Measure a whisker over 13/16"

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0744_zpspmmk1ave.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0744_zpspmmk1ave.jpg.html)

They are for my air dam:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/100_99531.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/100_99531.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: sportyworty on May 21, 2016, 09:30:00 am
Windsor on left.
Cleveland 2V on the right. Not vintage
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 10:08:18 am
Headman hasn't made the swap headers since the late 70s or 80s.
The oval port ones bolt up to 302w heads.
Also have to use front engine mounts.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_1241.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_1241.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_1239.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_1239.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 10:18:35 am
They bolt (of course) to a 351w as well. But they will not clear the cross member of that taller engine.


Rectangle ones:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Yellow%2072/Pintokit_zpsa9816fc1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Yellow%2072/Pintokit_zpsa9816fc1.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Yellow%2072/Pintokitnumbers_zpsb44612e6.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Yellow%2072/Pintokitnumbers_zpsb44612e6.jpg.html)

I had contacted Headman to see if these, as well as the same style for a B2 can still be purchased : no.
They had no idea where the jigs would be & had no interest in trying to make any.
Both sets measure up the same for clearance (height).
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 10:24:25 am
Have a couple pictures of a used set for 351C

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Cars/craigliststuff121.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Cars/craigliststuff121.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Cars/craigliststuff123.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Cars/craigliststuff123.jpg.html)

I know a guy building a 71 Pinto with a 351C. He found a NOS set of these.

Cannot help but wonder how many sets are sitting on some back shelf in places all over the US & Canada.......
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: crossboss on May 21, 2016, 11:54:20 am
Windsor on left.
Cleveland 2V on the right. Not vintage


Kerry,
Both are for Windsor engines. Cleveland has the 'canted' (no pun!) exhaust bolt pattern as in Reeves last pictures. I also have seen Windsor round or square exhaust ports on headers  among different header companies. Btw, Reeves I believe Hooker made (or still does) an 'engine swap' header kit for the Pinto. That said, I have no clue as to what engine(s).
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: sportyworty on May 21, 2016, 12:01:14 pm
doh and I just bolted a set on yesterday. Of course the exhaust is diagonal, carry on forget I was here ;D

I just saw the small round ports and thought hey those look like my Hedman headers for the Oz 2V heads
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 05:21:07 pm
The Hooker SBF headers look like this. Back 2 tubes go through the inner fenders, down by swing arms & behind the strut arms, under frame rail , to collectors. # 6061 I think.
These, of course, are not them.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0725_zpsw3f3amdb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0725_zpsw3f3amdb.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0724_zpstczmzbkq.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/IMG_0724_zpstczmzbkq.jpg.html)

These are 2" tubes to 3 1/2" collectors.
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 05:24:54 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/059_zpsccmu6hfj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/059_zpsccmu6hfj.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/My%201972%20Pinto/057_zpsv6uqomzt.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/My%201972%20Pinto/057_zpsv6uqomzt.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: Reeves1 on May 21, 2016, 05:37:36 pm
Fairly sure I posted this before ?

I think it was Herbert & Meek (?) that also used to make a swap kit.
I actually like these the best. Used in my first two Pinto swaps.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Cars/t-4_zpsxl8gfmq7.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Cars/t-4_zpsxl8gfmq7.jpg.html)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/DerrickJB/Cars/92_11_11_11_9_30_28-1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/DerrickJB/media/Cars/92_11_11_11_9_30_28-1.jpg.html)

I was going to buy the top set not long ago. Let a "buddy" buy them & wanted him to have a builder make another set......he couldn't find one to do so.
2nd pic of a car that was for sale.
Title: Re: Couple questions
Post by: TA28 on May 21, 2016, 07:18:08 pm
I think the crane fireball heads for the 289/302w had round exhaust ports