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Offline 1971rcode

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71 boss 302 mustang found
« on: January 23, 2008, 11:47:39 pm »
just got my new issue of mustang monthly feb 2008 on page 32 looks like they uncovered a boss 302 prototype. car was used as a show car then appeared to be stripped of its boss parts . and reserial numbered to a standard fastback . the article also shows it was also a boss 351 prototype
the car is interesting to say the least

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 11:58:37 pm »
just looking at the article more and theres a picture of anther boss 302 prototype motor trend press car, you will notice it has ram air , rear spoiler, standard gas cap , and regular wheels with trim rings and hub cabs , to bad kevin marti cant find the serial number to this car also what an interesting pair of cars they would be.

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 07:03:52 pm »
What a find! he bought it from ebay not long ago. now the question is how do you restore it? boss 302, boss 351 or 351 2v?
I would think the other prototype would be close to the vin that this one has.
67 GT500
69 BOSS2
70 MACH1
70 4X4 HIGHBOY
71 BOSS1
72 R SPORTSROOF
03 MACH 1
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 07:17:47 pm »
I personaly would restore it as a boss 302 , but i wonder why ford didnt leave it as a boss 351

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 08:57:39 pm »
now the question is how do you restore it? boss 302, boss 351 or 351 2v? 

Wow-can you imagine what a D1Z number boss 302 air cleaner housing would sell for???? hahaha  (Let that one go hun)  How many have seen one??
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 02:17:41 am »
Was it a drag pak car????????????
70 W code matching #s 0F02G200162
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 07:49:10 am »
leave it as it....the double door tag, the hint of an upper pin stripe on the decklid.  It is an artifact now.   Makes you wonder how many other cars had a similar fate--changed vin tag, engine, etc, all under the watchful eye of the manufacturer.   

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 02:42:36 pm »
So they did exist!  Even if they did not "really" exist.  At least now there is proof.

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 02:52:07 pm »
In Kevin's Mustangs- By the Numbers book
He states "The Six planned 1971 Boss 302 Mustangs that were never built"

So I guess the question (seeing this one) is were others built/scrapped/converted/sold??  (Or not)

Mark
P.S. Seems to be a fair abount of 1971 Boss 302 parts that were in the pipeline.  (Vendors that had blaket PO's and were quick with tooling-the carbs come to mind first)
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 05:43:41 pm »
Actually, here's proof..... ;)

I have lots more info on the car.  I am going out for a few days, so I won't be able to respond for a few, but I look forward to the lively discussions about this rare find.

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 07:22:20 pm »
Andy-welcome!!

We saw from the mag that you are a Boss 351 owner!  So it was cool that you got this car too!!
Actually a good thing as now you have ammo with the wife!!!  (Collect the set)

Mark
P.S.  Just don't fall into the wife trap that you have to sell one to restore the other!!!!
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 08:27:13 pm »
Mark, thanks for the welcome.  I do indeed still have the Boss 351 and its coming along (slowly).  By the way, when you look at that door tag photo, notice the tag is a 1970 tag, while the final tag (you can't see in this photo) is a 1971 tag.  There are a lot of little interesting things like that, on this car.

One additional note, the earliest invoice on this car shows it as VIN 1F05R100053.  That's not a typo.  A Mach 1/Boss 351 VIN.  However the car was physically  "born" a  1F02G100053.  (with that metal windshield tab and door tag (patent plate) installed when the car was made.)

The photos of the Grabber Yellow prototype Boss 351 show it had the Mach 1 appointments at that time.  Then, when Ford yanked out whichever motor was last between the shock towers, and installed the 351C-2V, leaving the remaining Boss 302 drivetrain components in the car, they created still another 1 of 1 build.  I need a scorecard.

I've started getting phone calls from a few different enthusiasts around the country since the article came out.  I am told the "Diamonds Are Forever" car may have been built on the same day as my car, and was also shipped to the Las Vegas Introductory Car Show in August of 1970.  Need to find someone who was at, or has photos from that show.

I'll be lurking around this forum. see ya
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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2008, 06:59:34 am »
I worked at Ford in Dearborn for over thirty years, and owned a '71 BOSS 351 back in the early seventies.  I saw TWO different 1971 BOSS 302's in the Dearborn area back then - a silver one, and a white one.   I actually stopped to check out the silver one, and yep, sure enough, it had a "G" in the fifth digit VIN position.   Can't recall now if the cars had regular plates or "M" license plates on them.

Now, I wonder if I scribbled that VIN down on a piece of paper.....better yet, would I have any idea where that paper might be NOW......

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2008, 04:28:35 pm »
Hey Andy
you said the first invoice had serial number 1F05R100053 what does that invoice show for an engine?
a boss 351 ( my guess) or does it show a 428 cobra jet , just wondering as a r code for 1970 was a 428 cobra jet, and its more than likely this car was built on the first day and might have even been a polit car for the changing body style
and what was the date of that invoice? how many more invoices did you get
and how was it invoice the other times?
I just think its a very intersting car.
I would guess the other Boss 302 cars that were made where probably very close serial number wise
and may have ended up mach 1 or plain fast backs
but since the marti report shows it as the only 351 2v 4 speed car made in 1971 the other ones either got different engines or didnt get reserial numbered ( and most likely destored)
but i wonder if they got 351 4v engines.( probably the engine that makes more sense) ford made 4491 351 4V 4 speed mach 1 in 1971 and thats not counting the plain fastbacks.
just food for thought

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Re: 71 boss 302 mustang found
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 04:43:34 pm »
Just a side note i bought a 4 bolt main cleveland block D0AE L i believe date code august 1970( a Boss 351 block) from a ford collecter in ill about 10 years ago, he claimed it to be a boss 351 block and he had the other boss 351 parts to go with it , but i only need a boss 351 block ,a set of exhaust manifold, and a boss 351 distributor so that was all i bought from him. the serial number on the block was 1F11163  its missing a number  somewhere in it i always figured when they stamped the serial number someone lost count and only did 3 1s instead of 4 which would make it 1F111163 ,( this is only a guess at the serial number as theres no way to say what number missing. it could be they didnt stamp the last digit or any other digit or it wasnt stamped hard enough) that has always made the most sense to me, but that serial number would be way to early for a production boss 351 . but maybe this engine block was out of a prototype wish i knew for sure