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Offline yello9F02G

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'71 Boss 302
« on: January 26, 2008, 11:34:34 am »
There is an interesting article in the February issue of Mustang Monthly Magazine about a '71 Mustang, owned by Andrew Hack, that is most likely the only 71 Boss 302 ever built. He bought the car listed on Ebay, not knowing the car's history, but discovered that this may be a very significant auto, from his inspection of the car and the Marti report.

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2008, 11:43:28 am »
Another classic example of, "Never Say Never". If you look in Kevin Martis book, "Mustang by the Numbers" it also indicates it was the only 1971 351-2V with a 4spd built. Now there's an interesting find!

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2008, 05:06:17 pm »
It's the same car!
Trying to get her finished for the reunion.

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Link to photos:  http://bentmetalcustoms.com/portfolio/1969-ford-mustang-boss-302-fastback/

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2008, 05:55:08 pm »
I saw that. PRETTY COOL!!! Lucky guy!!

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Re: '71 Boss 302
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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2008, 07:32:30 pm »
What would a guy do ? Leave it or restore it ? Flat out it started life as a boss 302 . Talk about a one of one car . I would have to say on any scale that this is the RAREST boss 302 . Its his car but I am just in AAAAHHHHHH to hear about such a rare find . I think the real cool thing is that it has been stated by some very big mustang KNOW IT ALLS that this car was never built . Now we know part of the story . I wonder what a car like that would bring at BJ ? In my book this car is just as big a find as the car from bullet is ! Makes you wonder what else is out there  ??? ??? ??? This is what makes the hobby fun ! A GOOD SHAKE UP ! I hope there is more to come!!!!!  Robert
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 08:29:40 am »
Based on the research I did while writing the article, it appears that Ford may have been planning to offer both the Boss 302 and Boss 351 in 1971. That would explain the '71 Boss 302 decals and other parts in Ford's parts catalog. A friend of mine who worked in Ford engine engineering recalls that the Boss 351 engine was in the works for at least a couple of years, so he doesn't think it was a hastily prepared replacement for the Boss 302. He was surprised to hear that Ford was even thinking about a '71 Boss 302, and even more surprised to learn that at least one was produced. Based on the photos of the press car, it appears that perhaps at least one other '71 Boss 302 was built. However, it could have been a pilot car, not a regular production car like Andrew's, so nothing would show up in Kevin Marti's database. Regardless, it's always exxciting to discover new stuff.

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2008, 10:08:01 am »
I wonder what the guy is going to do as far as a restoration? The factory built it as both a "G" and "H" code car. It might be better to just leave it as it is, but it would be very cool to see it restored to its Boss 302 configuration. Although in order to do that, he'd have to have a dash vin plate created. Not sure how that would work with the law. I guess if he showed the DMV all the Kevin Marti documentation, he might be able to change the vin of the vehicle. Interesting stuff.
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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2008, 03:59:55 pm »
You might want to read...

http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=35106.0

This was discussion from a week or so ago about the same artical
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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2008, 09:12:15 pm »
I posted a close-up photo of the original 1971 Boss 302 door tag at this address, if you want to take a look:

http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=35212.0

There are still a lot of unanswered questions about this car like: why does the earliest invoice list the VIN as 1F05R100053, with the usual Boss 351 package contents listed, including a ram air hood (the car still has ram air springs!).

Since the car was "born" as a G code, makes me believe there is some earlier "non-standard" paperwork that was lost, or hasn't been found yet.  Although, I have to say the Door tag, Invoices and Ford Communications Memo found so far are pretty breathtaking documentation.  Wish someone had a photo from that Las Vegas Auto Show.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2008, 05:00:32 am »
Andy, thanks for the close-up photo of the door tag. Wow, very interesting to say the least. Even with all the amazing documentation you've found, there are still some unanswered questions about the car. Keep us all informed of any new info you acquire. And welcome to the forum!  Jim
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 06:09:06 am »
 ;D I just want to thank Andy again for sharing this info with us . I also want to thank Donald Farr for bringing the story to us ! I have not bought a mustang monthly in years ( I buy mustang and Fords ) ! I thinks its time to subscribe again ! I think it pumps us old ford boys to know there really are still rare finds out there. Donald keep these stories coming . Robert
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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2008, 07:22:43 am »
Robert- it's my pleasure to be able to join in the conversation and share this stuff.  Heck, last night I found myself in Wally World telling complete strangers, "look, that's my car on the cover of Mustang Monthly..."  My wife won't let me go back into the store until this month's issue is sold out!

My thanks, again to Donald Farr who did a great job compressing so many facts into the story, and was such a pleasure to meet.   I think this story does illustrate that, even in these time of high collector car prices and high profile auctions on tv, there are still fantastic "finds" out there for the "average Joe" to discover.  Also, not everyone selling a car on the internet is out to "take" somebody. 

This car was actually in better condition than the seller described, and still would have been a very good bargain, even though neither the seller nor myself knew the signicance of the car's actual history.  And, though more difficult these days, it is still possible to get some vehicle history from the California DMV! -Andy

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2008, 09:11:42 am »
Andy I did the same thing when my story and Boss 302 were in the rare finds of Mustang and Fords mag .  I think its neat how a guy can be so happy to see his car in a mag . Anyone can restore a car and win a trophey . Anyone can buy a car done by someone else and take credit for it . It really doesnt matter what you do with you car Andy . You have the story and the history . To me thats what makes your car so interesting . I hope everyone else  that reads this article is sharing in the same excitement as You and myself . Then again I need all the help I can get now that its below zero here in Montana again  :( ! I need a heated garage !  ;D Robert
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1970 Torino GT 429 SCJ 4 speed
1971 Torino 500 3514 SPEED
2004 Mustang Gt
2003 Mach 1
1986 Mustang Convert