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Offline 1F02G100053

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2008, 07:40:58 pm »
Hawkrod-  Thanks for the tag decode info! -Andy     

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #76 on: April 16, 2008, 08:35:49 pm »
I put the NOS H Pipe on E Bay for the 71

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2008, 03:03:42 pm »
I posted a close-up photo of the original 1971 Boss 302 door tag at this address, if you want to take a look:

http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=35212.0

There are still a lot of unanswered questions about this car like: why does the earliest invoice list the VIN as 1F05R100053, with the usual Boss 351 package contents listed, including a ram air hood (the car still has ram air springs!).

Since the car was "born" as a G code, makes me believe there is some earlier "non-standard" paperwork that was lost, or hasn't been found yet.  Although, I have to say the Door tag, Invoices and Ford Communications Memo found so far are pretty breathtaking documentation.  Wish someone had a photo from that Las Vegas Auto Show.
-Andy


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Your VIN# is here also;-)

Read on;

http://www.network54.com/Forum/234286/message/1220484007/Draw+your+own+concl

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2008, 07:10:23 pm »
Any updates on the car??

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2008, 07:48:23 pm »
A '71 Boss 302 and a Boss 302 Shelby.  Never say never indeed!  :o  NB
'64 1/2 Convertible (SOLD)
'64 1/2 hardtop
'66 Bronco, 5.0 fuel injected, restomod
'67 Mustang Junior!
'68 Bronco Half Cab
'69 BOSS 302  9F02G196425 (SOLD)
'74 Bronco 302 auto
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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2008, 06:49:44 pm »
Any updates on the car??

FRED ASHMORE

Hi Fred, I just noticed your older post inquiring about an update on my 71 Boss 302.  Not much new to report. 

I'm guessing you probably saw the footnote under the photo of the car in the August Mustang Monthly, where Kevin Marti confirmed that it was the only 1971 Mustang to leave the plant with a Boss 302 motor in it.

I did come across one other bit of info that I think you will really enjoy seeing, if you haven't already.....check this out:

  http://www.network54.com/Forum/234286/thread/1219631751/Diamonds+are+Forever+Car+on+Ebay

Let all of the images load, and make sure you scroll down to the Eminger pages and her hand-written notes.  She logged the 1st 100 Vin's for all 1971 Mustangs and where they went.  Her letters to Donald Farr and the others is great stuff for those of us interested in documenting these cars. 

Notice that most of the first 100 were "special" use for movies, car shows and other promotions.  My car is listed as 1F05R100053, and her note appears to say, "no orig."  That's consistent with some of the original paperwork.  She then mentions in her letter to Donald Farr that it was later sold as a sportsroof "h" code car. 

Her list also shows that my car was far from being the first 1971 Mustang produced, which we wondered about. In fact, it looks like most of the first 100 VIN's were actually Mustangs, for 1971.

It's really great stuff.  Lois must have been quite the lady.  She will be greatly missed.  -Andy

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2008, 10:22:08 pm »
That was a great read..  I notice her note on your car and it said "02 no orig"  That in short hand would say...  (02) means fastback (no) means numberered, and (orig) means originally ..If you go down 2 pages there is a listing of what appears to be 1FO2G100026 AND 1FO1G100027 BOTH FOR EXPORT.. The only digit this could be mistaken for would be a C (429), but it is almost clearly a G or a 6..  So I am assuming yours was initially listed as an R code sportsroof Mach 1, and found later in her other paperwork listed as a std fastback (02) and was noted to reflect such??   Are the other two listed maybe two others that were  built, but were exported instead of disassembled or repowered??  I know that there were some low compression engine codes for export, but oddly enough both cars were Grabber colored, which are synonimous with Bosses or Hipo cars Usually..  Both of these cars are seperate from the rest of the list.. It may be worth looking into unless somebody knows different??  This is a great topic and I enjoy talking about it with you.. I hope my input has helped not hinder the authenticity of your very unique piece of history... Maybe H-rod can shed some light on it..  I cannot remember what the export low compression codes were, if any in 71..  Great info..  Thanks for the post and I hope all is well..  I wish I had this type of info with my cars!!  Let me know what you think or already may know about it...

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2008, 06:04:18 am »
Found my tag book and the digit is a 6 which is a low compression 302 2v for export, (which was one of my original assumptions) so the question I had was answered...  Still a very interesting article and I hope some of my input helped.. I am hoping to maybe find one of these rare gems if you couldn't tell!!

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2008, 07:33:59 pm »
Fred, I welcome all input and points of view.  By the way, another interpretation of Lois' note about my car might be " 02, no original " meaning she did not have an original invoice for this car. 

I say this, because Marti Autoworks originally wrote to me saying they "had no paperwork for this VIN".  They later found the papers stored separately in a plastic bag with the Ford telegram and other invoices for this car.  But, your interp could be just as likely.

Now, if you really want to go treasure hunting, this is the prize you need to find, depicted in SuperStock Magazine in 1970.  Look at the trunk lettering:
 


I believe this is the car depicted in the Black and White photos posted earlier, which actually showed the Boss 302 under the hood.  The Blue and Argent colors would be consistent with the black and white photos.  This may be the pilot car that the Ford engineer spoke of, in an earlier post.  Sure looks like the real thing, street ready and all. 

This sure would be a real find, too!  I keep watching eBay, but lightning can't strike twice, can it!  -Andy


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« Reply #84 on: November 11, 2008, 07:49:11 pm »
I definately will do..

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« Reply #85 on: November 11, 2008, 08:14:16 pm »
Andy if you look at the the note it says 02 in frt of the no orig... If you look at your G code vin door tag, it is an 02 series, not the 05 as it was listed with the R code record..  I would bet the side note means 0riginally numbered 02, which would support the Door tag you found on your car.. This would also explain why they did not sell it as the Boss 351 as was intended as it was labeled as an 05..  They would have required more extensive alterations besides a motor and Door tag swap...

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #86 on: November 11, 2008, 08:45:02 pm »
Yeah, I kicked that around for a while, too.  And, since the car was built, tagged and VIN'd as 1F02G, you would think there had to be an initial invoice, somewhere, with that 1F02G VIN, before it was later called 1F05R on the paperwork (which is my earliest invoice.)

But, if you look at page 2 of her letter to Donald Farr, she states,

"The Mach 1 chart indicates that -053 was originally invoiced out and shipped as a Mach 1.  When actually it was re-invoiced and sold as a 1F02H100053 sportsroof."

That seems to be the chronology she had, so "02 no orig" is hard to decipher.  But you could certainly be right.  And she may have had other documents she referred to.

Lois didn't even seem to notice that this was the first, and only "R" code on the list.  But you have to remember she was specifically looking for the Mach 1's  (the DAF car.)   I was excited just to see her mention my car's VIN in her letter to Donald Farr.  -Andy



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« Reply #87 on: November 11, 2008, 08:52:48 pm »
I can't blame you..  Just the mention gets you excited.. I got excited when I saw a car I worked on in Hemmings this month, I couldn't imagine how pumped I would have been if it was mine..

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« Reply #88 on: November 11, 2008, 08:56:51 pm »
Note on the car above the paint does not match on the trunk and lines up very poorly....  Maybe painted for the shoot and removed for the original later?? just an observation, but I will be on the look out...

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Re: '71 Boss 302
« Reply #89 on: November 11, 2008, 09:05:02 pm »
The most excitement for me was actually the August issue of Mustang Monthly, cause I had no idea they were doing that story.  The earlier issues I was watching for. 

But when the August issue came out, I was standing at the magazine rack at Walmart and I flipped through the Kevin Marti Interview.  And I was all excited cause he and Donald Farr both mentioned my car in the story a couple of times.  Then I flipped to the last page of the story and "wow" there was a big color photo of my car again.  And there was nobody there with me to show it to!  So, I showed the guy mopping the floors.  Then he asked me if that was a Ford.  -Andy