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Offline grd777

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how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« on: June 08, 2012, 05:21:46 pm »
hi guys
my brother is looking at a 70 b2 project car  to buy .it will need alot of major rust repair , which i can deal with to help him out . What i need to know  is how much a complete engine would cost him since the car does not have one
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 05:42:59 pm »
Say $4000 -12,000 depending on fruit level. There are a lot of variables in your question. Good luck.

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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 06:11:37 pm »
i mean complete including shaker etc, so you think 12,000
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 07:18:23 pm »
i mean complete including shaker etc, so you think 12,000
like Skip70 indicated,  depends on the variables.  Totally stock to anything goes (stroker, et al).


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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 07:24:38 pm »
lets say close to stock assuming some parts i can not get right away and have to used other types
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 07:35:38 pm »
A Shaker alone brings 3500 -5000.
Skip that and and I would say 5000 to 10,000.
As others have stated, how close do you want it?
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 07:46:09 pm »
so if my brother buys this project without a motor shouild he figure 15.000 for a engine including a shaker
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 09:17:54 pm »
I think that's too much. I have a motor I may let go. Send me a PM.
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 10:26:55 pm »
Usually when you are looking to buy a complete engine, the term is. Carb to pan. If you are just looking for a service D1 block and heads based engine then 4,500 to 5,000 for a standard bore engine. If your looking for date Code correct block and heads matching date, standard bore standard crank, complete with X pump, correct distributor and carburetor. With smog and correct bracketry 10,000 to 14,000 still no shaker.
So I am finally working on the 1970 Boss 302 motor it just hasn't been happy since the valve dropped in the stroked Windsor.


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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2012, 05:08:25 am »
i guess i should tell him to plan on spending 15,000. i  am trying to put a budget together for him.we also saw a 69 428 cj also rusted but complete with engine (not sure if matching yet )is it better to buy a complete car ,he is asking 16,000 but might let it go for 14,000.thanks for all the input guys
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 08:21:44 am »
My experience has been that it's better to buy what turns you on. If you buy something your Luke warm about the Restoration will get sold to someone else to complete. If a Boss 302 turns you on go that way, if torque turns you on go with the Cobra Jet.
So I am finally working on the 1970 Boss 302 motor it just hasn't been happy since the valve dropped in the stroked Windsor.

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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 09:22:41 am »
John,
            Truer words have never been stated better!  If you are not 100% behind a big restoration project it will drag you down very quickly.  Make the purchase on what you REALLY want and then factor in the costs...
Also agree on the Boss 302 vs CJ 428 statement...great post on this site right now on that very topic...!!!!!
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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2012, 04:55:59 pm »
My rule of thumb in restoring a car is set a budget and add 20%, it always runs over. Take a 69 for example, Smog bracket is impossible, I had to make one out of two different brackets.

The other thing to consider is, what are you building, if it is concourse, it's one price, driver, is whole other price.  You should always have in your mind, what am I building. You have a shaker car, so a shaker is a must, but you could save big $$$ by going some non-stock parts, carb, distro, X-pump, smog etc.

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Re: how much for a complete boss 302 engine
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2012, 11:18:44 am »
I just recently sold a semi-complete correct Boss 302 shaker assembly to a board member (thanks Tom!) for 4k, and even so, that was the "board member price" - I would have asked much more from a "civilian".  The unit did not include the snorkel, a functioning vacuum unit, or an NOS seal (although the seal I sold Tom was an EXCELLENT original piece).  Point being, once you add up all the ancillary pieces to a basic Boss long block (ie correct carb, distributor, exhaust manifolds, Thermactor smog system, etc), you are already into many thousands of dollars.  Also, trying to find all the correct pieces unique to a Boss motor is sometimes an excercise in futility itself!  Heck, talk to several board members STILL trying to find a correct timing pointer that is ONLY found on a 70 Boss 302 motor.  I would be VERY hard press to put an actual dollar amount on a COMPLETE, ready to install Boss 302 motor assembly (check some threads out on finding a correct date coded Boss water pump with the unique impeller).  I have met and tried to assist several individuals that have bought a shell attempting to locate and negotiate "reasonable" prices for missing items.  There are a LOT of greedy sellers out there, and when they happen on a unique Boss piece, it is most times near impossible to negotiate with them.  Building a Boss 302 from near scratch is VERY challenging, but doable.  Good luck to your brother!!  One great thing he does have going for him is the wealth of knowledge available to him right here at the forum - we are here to make sure that the money he does spend is spent on the RIGHT stuff, not some doctored up piece made to look "Boss"......

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