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Offline shelbyboss302

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ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« on: December 04, 2012, 11:34:53 pm »
In this tutorial I am going to show how you can tell the difference between a factory aluminum Hurst T handle and a reproduction one. All 1970 Mustang 4 speed cars be it a Boss 429, 428 CJ, Boss 302 or what have you, if it had the 4 speed toploader gear box then it came with the Hurst aluminum T handle and they all had a hole drilled to accept an Allen key to lock the T handle on to the chrome Hurst shifter handle 7275. Some argue that their original T handles never had this hole for the set screw but in fact it did have one when the car left the factory. The same goes with the Hurst Chrome Shifter handle (7275), many argue this point also but when in fact it too was on the car when it left the factory. There also seems to be an ongoing argument about the closed 4 or the open four and I personally believe they all came with open 4 but maybe someone can chime in and clear that up. You have to remember that these cars are 43 years old and then add to the equation of how many owners one car had over the years, how many of these T handles were stolen from unlocked cars, how many owners tossed their originals and replaced them with white or black billiard balls from the local Pool Hall down the street then you get the picture. With today’s technology, reproduction T handles are getting better and better but there are still a few subtle differences between the both of them and I will try my best to show them to you.














HERE IF YOU FOLLOW THE CONTOURS ON THE TOP OF THE HANDLES YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE


REPRODUCTION


REPRODUCTION


REPRODUCTION IN SEALED PACKAGE AND CLAIMED TO BE NOS ORIGINAL


REPRODUCTION


REPRODUCTION
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Re: ORIGINAL HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 11:46:23 pm »
Nice work.  I will be taking my laptop out to the garage tomorrow a.m.

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Re: ORIGINAL HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 04:14:48 am »
Great job! Thanks for sharing that. Very helpful.
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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 02:37:30 pm »
If you want you can add this photo , thanks for the info.



So this bottom Handle looks like a re-pop to me , based on your info.



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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 03:05:12 pm »
Appreciate the knowledge drops, thanks a lot!
Like others, I will be headed out to the garage this evening to check on things...

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 03:29:01 pm »
Very interesting and great info.  Now someone correct me if I am wrong, but for 1971 - 1973 didn't those Hurst T handles lose the side set screw?  I wonder if the alignment as displayed in the NOS pics also apply to the original '71 - '73 handles?
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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 06:56:29 pm »
Yes the set screw was 1970 only.

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 07:42:49 pm »
Nicely done!

It still amazes me that if someone is taking the time and making the effort/investment to reproduce a specific item, that in this era of cad-cam and 3-D digital mapping they can end up so far off. Brian

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2012, 09:42:08 am »
Now you guys know where my forum name came from. Still have my original " T Handle" as well. Good article.

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2012, 01:11:20 pm »
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It still amazes me that if someone is taking the time and making the effort/investment to reproduce a specific item, that in this era of cad-cam and 3-D digital mapping they can end up so far off.


I've always asked that question and could never figure out why they don't. Just seems really dumb. But it might have something to do with the copy right laws. :-\ Imagine if they did make DNA copies of certain parts. We all know originals are worth more than repops. They could then be able to sell repops as NOS originals. I don't ravish the thoughts of paying $350 for a $15 repop part.  :-\

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2012, 09:52:09 pm »
NOBOSS, I added one of your reproduction T-handle pictures and compared it to an original T-handle. Another way to tell the difference that I forgot to mention earlier in my post is that if you look at the contours of the real one and then look at the reproduction one then you can see the differences in the grip of the handle. Thanks

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 04:50:37 pm »
Thanks for taking the time to give us a lesson. Do you or anyone else know an effective way to restore one. I have used steel wool but now the handle rubs black oxidation? off on my hand...
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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2012, 09:50:03 am »
A nice permanent home for these documentaries would be in the technical section.  Seems to be a neglected location these days.

http://www.boss302.com/techmenu.htm


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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2012, 10:22:20 am »
Very interesting and great info.  Now someone correct me if I am wrong, but for 1971 - 1973 didn't those Hurst T handles lose the side set screw?  I wonder if the alignment as displayed in the NOS pics also apply to the original '71 - '73 handles?
Bob
The T Handle was replaced in 72 by the round and black knob.

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Re: ORIGINAL ALUMINUM HURST T HANDLE TUTORIAL REFERENCE
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2012, 01:04:06 pm »
You made me go out and look at mine. These are great references for those looking for the correct parts. Thanks for sharing.

No paint left and it looks a bit worn for 13K miles.

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