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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 09:58:46 am »
Yep. This topic is also being discussed on the 428CJ site.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 10:35:59 am »
Stunning loss to the Shelby hobby.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 11:02:42 am »
John,
Whats ironic about this mess, the owner of the SAAC site is a computer tech wiz, who did not have any 'back up' or current updates. Sad indeed to the hobby, and to the members of SAAC.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 11:10:10 am »
WOW!  All that knowledge and information lost.  Devastating...

Makes one wonder about the redundancy and recovery abilities of the BOSS302 site and if it could suffer a similar fate.

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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 11:51:30 am »
You can still recover data from the disks its just a lot of work and may not be cheap. I have always wondered what the 'Value' of this site's data really is....and with amazon S3 a backup is a no-brainer. I have always wanted to see a better search engine with key word capability for the Boss 302 Registry. My point, if they really wanted to rebuild the site with the historic data it can be done if the owner feels its valuable time spent and wants to spend the money.

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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 12:17:13 pm »
So...did everything get lost? All of the info for the Registry's, photos, cars history's, ect ? And none of that is recoverable? I'm not a computer guy so can someone give me (us) a bit more insight as to what really happened and is lost forever?
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 12:32:30 pm »
You can still recover data from the disks its just a lot of work and may not be cheap. I have always wondered what the 'Value' of this site's data really is....and with amazon S3 a backup is a no-brainer. I have always wanted to see a better search engine with key word capability for the Boss 302 Registry. My point, if they really wanted to rebuild the site with the historic data it can be done if the owner feels its valuable time spent and wants to spend the money.


Joe,
As I heard, all data is gone forever. This is my personal experience with SAAC as I posted on the 428CJ site:
"The 428 CJ site is always rock solid. SAAC is (and was) always behind the times for web protection and info gathering. Years ago, when I registered my GT-500, it took them forever to acknowledge my info and some got kicked back with 'errors'. This was a big hassle, no doubt. Also, the Boss 302 site has its ups and downs…obviously, not like SAAC. Lastly, its ironic that the SAAC site was owned by a computer wiz, yet took no effort to protect valuable info, and a reliable 'back up' system."
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 12:49:17 pm »
So the question goes out to Randy and Jeff, Do we as members of the board need to make a donation to improve the back up of this site?
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 01:05:47 pm »
So the question goes out to Randy and Jeff, Do we as members of the board need to make a donation to improve the back up of this site?
John

Great question! I’m in to help via donation. As a career pilot, I can tell you it’s far more beneficial to learn from other’s mistakes rather than having personal experience...

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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2018, 01:18:02 pm »
Having a size of the data files on the Registry site and the type of format will dictate its cost. You have to know how the data is stored, (file server, Database, etc.) and the size (probably in the GB range...maybe TB) and you can run a back up.  Disk space is cheap. Now days, not to have a backup is one of two things - you either don't care or you are careless!  I went to Best Buy and bought a 1 Terabyte drive with a 3.0 USB for couple of 100 bucks and have plenty of backup on my PC's. I also backed it up to Dropbox.  So again, I struggle with the fact that the data cannot be recovered when even if you delete data on your PC and re-format its still recoverable. THat's why if you donate your PC to anyone, always remove your Hard drive, regardless, or your giving your personal info to everyone.

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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 02:29:25 pm »
+1 to donate if needed for upgrades. Randy - please let us know.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 02:49:22 pm »
+1 to donate if needed for upgrades. Randy - please let us know.
Count me in too. I work in the field of digitisation of government records. Our motto is "records digitisation is not about the past - it's about the future of our past". The same applies to the matter discussed in this thread - protecting the information is worth any amount of money, cos once the information is gone, it's gone.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 03:36:53 pm »
There are many things on this board that replaceable, however there are many things that were written by folks that are gone that have helped many people.
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Re: SAAC Forum crash results in total devastation of the forum
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 04:33:22 pm »
Some over there think its no big deal. As one admin says " Just a minor hiccup", boy did that raise some hair on the back of mosts necks!!

I'm on there pretty regular and over the past several weeks up to the crash, a lot of members were concerned that there were no real concern about who owned the forum, switched owners?!, etc...  Members were talking about this quite frequently up to the crash.  Then it happened!!!

Everything GONE!!